i think eating some thing cloned is in fact a new idea but a weird one. Would it have the nutritional valu regular food has ?And is it safe? These are questions yet to be answered. I hope they are soon...
I believe it is unsafe to eat cloned meat. In the New Testament of the Bible, it says all animals are clean and therefore available to eat because they are made from God. Cloned animals are not made from God and therefore are not deemed cleaned. I feel that the meat should be labeled so the consumer's RIGHT to make their own CHOICE is not taken away from them.
WELLL IF YOU MUST KNOW WE eat vegetables and they are not made from god......wabufffffffffffffffet....we plant vegetables ..... has the world died because we eat vegetables what will happen to the vegetarians........next time dont judge meat it has never lied to me. EVERYTHInG IS mADE FROM GOD .............YAah oh and thats fo true
i belive you are completly right they are unsafe to eat. Not onlt this but if you think about it there must be something wrong with the genetic make up of this animal so the cannot be sane. So i believe that it is wrong God createdd animals to reproduce themselves and it has been going fine for thousands of years and they havent needed the help of any scientists so why do we need thenm now? This is a question that scientists will and cannot answer.
I totally agree with you! How many times has the FDA said something was safe and we find out years later that isn't the case. Think breast implants, more drugs than I can remember and how many years were smokers led to believe cigarettes were harmless? And I and everybody who I know feels that if meat is on the market from the offspring of cloned animals, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT IT IS LABELED AS SUCH. This is still AMERICA and consumers should have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER or not they WANT TO EAT it.
I agree with you th1nkab0ut1tf0lkz, The USDA has not approved it and the FDA has. I read this article on Jan. 16, 2008 and was appaulded about it.
We have infringed upon. We should have the right to know what we are consuming. Like some of the meds. I took premarin for 10 years only to find out that it was horse urine. I did not know! I immediately stopped taking it. I know that there are others who are on it but do not have any idea that this is what it is. I suffer with my stomach now and wander if it is related to the nausea that I have. I found out watching a report on television about it.
So far, scientists say that there are no detectable differences between the meat of regular animals and cloned animals. So, yes, cloned meat has all the nutritional value that regular food has.
Is it safe? Well, the FDA says yes. Obviously, there are a lot of other people on this forum who think otherwise. And there are always fears--legitimate or not--about new technologies, especially when they involve food. Look at the controversy surrounding genetically modified organisms (GMOs), for example...
Clonned animals age prematurely and are subject to more health problems earlier than non-clonned animals.
Eating clonned animals is not a good idea. Not revealling that you are selling clonned animals is morally reprehensible as the public should be informed on the packaging label so that they can make intelligent decisions.
i think that is discusting. in the old ways our lands were once filled with enough meat but if white settlers would of learned not to be so sellfish idiots wouldnt have to clone to make prefab meat.
i think that though it sounds very very very very disgusting, i think there wouldn't be any difference. if the label on the meat products didn't mention that it was cloned meat, you would think it was normal meat.
it's really just a mathematical truth; the natural reproduction of animals is just not sufficient to support the growth of the human race in the manner it is accustomed (burgers, lamb, fish, etc.) man interferes" in natural world all of the time, in thousands of ways; it may also be God's will. Judge not, lest ye be judged
The issue here seems to be not whether cloned meat is edible, but the cloning itself. A clone of, for instance, a cow, would be genetically identical to the original animal, so the meat would be no different. The moral issues are whether reproductive cloning of any organism is ethical, and would cloning animals to eat them be an insult to nature? After all, such a practice could set a precedent for more radical techniques, such as genetic manipulation, which could have unforseen side effects, as it already does in crops, and if just one person dies of an allergic reaction to a genetically modified protein, that's one person too many.
But what if these modification allow for more hungry people around the world to be fed with less environmental damage. I'm not saying this is a certainty but I don't object to "weird/unnatural" food if it help hungry people.
Although, if you are interested in this you might check out Margaret Atwood's recent book, Oryx and Crake. It is a pretty cool dystopian near future look at Frankenfood taken to the extreme.
Cloned food will feed the hungry? Please, I nearly fell off my chair! Franken-scientists have been telling us for years that one of the benefits of GMO's was their ability to supply the starving with sustenance. Well, I guess you were duped on that one too because they certainly haven't shown any benefit as millions world-wide continue to die in ever increasing numbers. The only consequence of the proliferation of genetically-tampered food has been a greater incidence of negative impact to consumer's health. (i.e. allergic reactions to soy and a general increase in disease manifestation)
Cloning has nothing to do with a benevolent group of individuals with an idealistic quest. These are scientific madmen whose only purpose in life is to gain power and wealth, at the EXPENSE of public and animal health and safety.
I urge everyone who is appalled by this shameful practice by industry and the total disregard demonstrated for the health and welfare of the public by government, to contact the FDA and your elected representative and tell them so. Submission to the FDA can be done from the following website which includes a handy form.
I chose to respond with my own comments printed below, which can be copied in full or in part by those who wish.
Food and Drug Administration
To Whom It May Concern:
I have modified the standard message on the form being forwarded from the Organics Consumers Association website as I feel a stronger message needs to be sent to those in authority at the FDA.
Unlike the OCA, I do not hold the belief that further testing or experimentation of the flawed science of cloning should continue. I also think it’s unconscionable that an organization mandated to protect the public would allow products from a "counterfeited" animal into the human food supply, with or without labeling.
It is my fervent belief that cloning is and will forever be a failed science. It has been demonstrated time and time again that any animal which man attempts to replicate, sickens and dies within a short period of time. You don’t need a Harvard degree to realize something is inherently wrong with this bizarre practice.
The so-called "experts" will never comprehend that a clone has no conscience and no soul and is imperfect because it is devoid of the one gene that man can never duplicate - the one that originates from our Creator's imprint.
Likely, most scientists involved in cloning and related frauds would scoff at the idea that a higher power had anything to do with the creation of this wondrous world we live in, and there inlies the rub.
The fact that multi-billions have already been squandered on genetics and associated research, with absolutely nothing of benefit to show for the general public, is a damning indictment of this fallacious profession.
The "hard" science dictates that cloning, genetics and stem-cell research are nothing more than pseudo-sciences that only benefit those with a vested interest.
The important question is then; does the FDA protect the interests of consumers or those of corporate entities? Are they on the side of the light, or the dark?
Every employee of the Food and Drug Administration who holds responsibility for supporting and facilitating the marketing of this "franken-food" must be held accountable for any negative effect to the public from the consumption of these deleterious products. The implications of ingesting cloned food may be short-term, long-term, or both, but undoubtedly there will be serious implications.
The FDA is opening up a Pandora's Box that needs to be shut, now and forever, or dire consequences will certainly result. It behooves the FDA to make the moral and ethical decision on such a monumental issue.
The alternative is to face the conviction that the organization and its affiliates are guilty, beyond a shadow of a doubt, of gross neglect for the safety and health and welfare of the public, and subject to any repercussions resulting from the same, legal or otherwise.
Is the cloning of animals practical? Can you really reconstruct the organic matter of a life-form? In 20 years marketers would be advertising their "real" non-cloned meat. Riots would form against the cloning of animals as it would be modifying the ecosystems which are so balenced in the world. If, say a million cloned chickens escaped, preditors would overeat, multiply, and eliminate the excess food scource. Most would die off. The chicken populations would again expand, thus sending ripples though numerous food chains.
recreating animals. uh I think that we would rather have cloned animals than nothing buttttt obviously we are not at a shortage of animals right now.No i think the animals stay pretty busy out there. You know how many animals I almost break my spleen tripping over them. PlENTY. Lets use SOMMMMON sense about this
I think I need more evidence that it is safe to eat. If you clone a cow with mad cow diease it could cause death and pain to many and it could take many years to figure it out.
However, there's no reason to think that cloned cows would be more likely to carry BSE ("mad cow disease"), and many reasons to think they might be less so.
I agree: I would like to see more discussion of the possible safety issues. On the other hand, we currently eat meat with artificial hormones and antibiotics, and we KNOW the health issues that may be associated with those.
I know that I wouldn't seek out cloned meat, but I don't think I'd pay extra to avoid it, either.
And right now, I'm much more worried about whether or not my produce isn't contaminated with E. coli or other pathogens than I am about the safety of cloned meat!
I think eating cloned animals sounds gross. But it might taste the same and the nutrition hopefully is similar. But, Ithink we shouldn't abuse our power of cloning or else something disaterious might happen.
wow... Can you believe this? Come on people.. Wake up! Why clone when we have enought animals to feed ourself. I think If we cloned animils then we are playing god. So science is a game of playing god? To me NOOOOOO..
i guess to a certain piont it sounds like a interesting idea but kind of weird. because if you raised a really healthy animal and cloned it for better meat that would be reallly cool, but we don't know if the technology is reliable enough to fulfill that.
Pigs, eg, have been bred tobe so similar in size, shape etc. that they might as well be cloned. Object is to get consistant maturity for butchering (10 months) and shape to allow robots to do the cutting etc.
that's what we are eating now! Baby-backed ribs anyone? D.O.
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I personally would not eat it just because of the fact that it is cloned. I like to eat meat, but if it is cloned, odds are it is missing nutrients and such things, so no I wouldn't. Then again, I am starting to become a vegitterean, so why should my opinion maatter?
There is no scientifically proven difference between the meat of a cloned animal and that of the animal which was cloned. This is not a religious issue or a moral one and I fail to understand why people feel the need to make it one. Eventually, we will need to clone many things in order to survive and sustain human life on this planet. So, yes, I would definitely eat meat from a cloned animal.
Who really cares if the meat is cloned or not? It's meat, people!! It doesn't make a difference. So, what does it really matter? You probably already eat cloned veggies. Would cloned meat be any different than regular meat? NO!!!!!!!!!!! It could probably make the meat cleaner, and that comment about mad cow disease, sorry,(you can't clone the disease, only the genes!!) If you take a perfectly good cow, and clone it, it would probably be another perfect cow. I vote with cloning all the way!! And, if u r a veggie eater, u have no say in this whatsoever!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't eat cloned meat because I believe the onset of disease and aging would come on quicker in the animal. I understand that the meat that would be cloned would come from an animal who would seem to be healthy, but what if when they age they have health issues. Wouldn't these same health issues come on faster in a cloned animal? And what if we have meat that come from all the same genes and a new disease wipes out these animals because they all have the same genes. Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival.
'Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival."
Very good point!
And if there was an allergy derived from a cloned animal, due to the fact that there is as of now no requirements for labeling, there would be no way to track down the particular cow.
Have you read the case about a Maryland dairy farmer named Greg Wiles?
"The FDA action follows the recent news that the agency has refused to investigate health problems in animal clones on a U.S. dairy farm. Greg Wiles, whose Williamsport Maryland "Futuraland 2020"dairy was the first farm in the nation to have cloned cows, told FDA that one of his two cow clones was suffering from unexplained health problems. Wiles told Food Chemical News that the clone "just stopped growing...she just looks terrible," but says that when he reported the problems to FDA and other federal officials, he was "paddled around like a tennis ball from agency to agency."CFS has asked the Agriculture Department to intervene in the case to stop any sale and prohibit the slaughter of clones and their progeny for food." http://www.progress.org/2006/gene114.htm
"Mr. Wiles was the first to have a commercial clone on his dairy farm in Maryland. To date, he has been abiding by the FDA’s requested voluntary moratorium on placing milk and meat from cloned animals and their progeny into the food supply. As a result of a court case, a judge in Maryland District Court for Washington County may soon order that Mr. Wiles’ animals – including clones and their progeny – be sold to satisfy a judgment. A force sale of the animals would likely result in their slaughter for use in meat. Mr. Wiles is concerned about this possibility on at least two fronts. First, he believes that the forced sale of the cloned animals would result in placing milk and meat from cloned animals into the food supply before any government agency has fully evaluated its safety. Second, Mr. Wiles, who has experienced a number of health problems with his cloned animals, believes that the animals should not be put into the food supply and instead be evaluated as part of the risk assessment process use to determine whether or not milk and meat from cloned animals is safe. Over the last several years, Mr. Wiles has brought this matter to the attention of the government – meeting with FDA and USDA officials – but has been rebuffed in his attempts to have his cloned animals fully evaluated and used in research.
Upon hearing of the Wiles situation, today Center for Food Safety and Food and Water Watch sent the attached letter to the USDA FSIS asking the agency to prohibit any slaughter of clones and their progeny and intervene in the Wiles case to the extent necessary to prevent the sale of the cloned animals." http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/food/foodsafety/cloning/news-pending-cloned-animal-slaughter
WHERE IS MR GREG WILES AT NOW - THE RUMOR IS HE IS BARELY ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE CATTLE HE HAS. THERE ARE NO MORE CLONES - THERE ARE CALVES OF THE CLONES, BUT THEY THEMSELVES ARE NOT CLONES.
HE IS IN THE HOLE ------ AND NO ONE IS OFFERING TO GET HIM OUT .........
I do not have enough information yet. When you look at hunger in the world, this perhaps could be a resource if it is proven to be safe and nutritious.
I don't think that the FDA is talking about "artificial meat"--where proteins are grown in a lab. (Here's a Buzz story on the technique.) Artificial meat certainly could someday be a resource to combat hunger, and it could help the environment, too. (Read the story to find out why.) But it sure doesn't sound tasty, does it?
Instead, I think they're saying that IF an animal is cloned for some other purpose--say it's been bred for some optimum trait, and now they want to preserve that trait--it can enter the foodstream once its "useful life" is over.
Yes, the decision also means that people could clone animals for food, but cloning is SO expensive that it doesn't make sense right now to clone animals only for food.
I might... I would need to know if everything, would be the same as normal products? I think it is a good idea overall though. I just hate how they clone.
The FDA made a preliminary statement on Dec. 28, 2006 about approving cloned meat and milk into the food supply without labeling. The FDA plans to make a final decision after accepting comments from the public. The FDA has a petition/docket on their website that is accepting comments from the general public until 4/10/07, so act fast people! Below is the docket and website address where it can be found:
Docket Number & Title: 2006P-0415 - Petition Seeking Regulation of Cloned Animals
Comment Period End Date: 04/10/07
I think that it should be labeled so the consumer can choose, as someone else said. However, I don't see cloned food ever hitting the shelves, as it is way more expensive to clone animals than to breed them.
I disagree with the comment that we need cloned animals to be able to feed the hungry in the world. We already produce world wide the food we would need to feed all people on the earth world wide but we lack the ability to be able to divided our combined resources and food staples to be able to stop the famines and starvation we see in the world. If all governments on earth shared what they had there would be no one starving anymore but we don't. So cloning animals still won't help starving people because the governments cloning the animals still wont share the extra to help with worldwide starvation and we lack the resources to get the food there also. So cloning is mostly for scienctist to be the first ones to do it and not a cure all for global hunger.
Cloning animals is FAR more expensive than breeding them, so I think it will be a long time before we find cloned animals in the foodstream in any significant numbers.
I think that cloned animals can really help impovershed nations around the world who are starving and whatnot. However, it will also have an economic effect on Ranchers and Farmers... And most of the time, when Americans have more things, it doesn't really affect other countries. We could introduce it to the poorer nations, but that would require an increase of education and highly-trained cloning-technicians.
So I suppose I'm a little confused.
i really dont know...part of me believes there is life beyond earth but part of is saying well if there was we probably would have seen something by now!!
"The consumer group urged FDA to issue a permanent ban on food or feed from cloned animals until the government conducts more safety testing on possible side-effects and addresses concerns over animal cruelty and ethical issues tied to the technology."
Cloned meat... it wouldnt hurt the original animal would it? And i guess all the meat would be perfect, it would all look, taste and feel the same. But that dosent mean there would be more meat. You have to put the cloned foetus inside the animal so it grows etc. So basically, you would get perfect meat, but it would be more expensive, take just as long, and the process would be so difficult that there would be less of it out there. And i think most people would prefer to eat real meat than cloned.
It depends, maybe after a profound scientific study that would certified eating Cloned Meat ( Animal) is safe.
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I probably wouldn't eat cloned meat. i mean, isn't the point of cloning to bring back endangered animals? If it is, what's the point of cloning them if you are just going to kill them!
If they are not labeling this meat. Are they even going to tell us when it is on the market? I mean come on people stick up for your rights this is America. People should have a choice about what they eat. I would not put that garbage in my body. The government says alot of things keep in mind they are all human to, and humans make mistakes.
i think eating some thing cloned is in fact a new idea but a weird one. Would it have the nutritional valu regular food has ?And is it safe? These are questions yet to be answered. I hope they are soon...
I believe it is unsafe to eat cloned meat. In the New Testament of the Bible, it says all animals are clean and therefore available to eat because they are made from God. Cloned animals are not made from God and therefore are not deemed cleaned. I feel that the meat should be labeled so the consumer's RIGHT to make their own CHOICE is not taken away from them.
WELLL IF YOU MUST KNOW WE eat vegetables and they are not made from god......wabufffffffffffffffet....we plant vegetables ..... has the world died because we eat vegetables what will happen to the vegetarians........next time dont judge meat it has never lied to me. EVERYTHInG IS mADE FROM GOD .............YAah oh and thats fo true
i belive you are completly right they are unsafe to eat. Not onlt this but if you think about it there must be something wrong with the genetic make up of this animal so the cannot be sane. So i believe that it is wrong God createdd animals to reproduce themselves and it has been going fine for thousands of years and they havent needed the help of any scientists so why do we need thenm now? This is a question that scientists will and cannot answer.
You should check out Thor's article to get some more background.
I totally agree with you! How many times has the FDA said something was safe and we find out years later that isn't the case. Think breast implants, more drugs than I can remember and how many years were smokers led to believe cigarettes were harmless? And I and everybody who I know feels that if meat is on the market from the offspring of cloned animals, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT IT IS LABELED AS SUCH. This is still AMERICA and consumers should have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER or not they WANT TO EAT it.
I agree with you th1nkab0ut1tf0lkz, The USDA has not approved it and the FDA has. I read this article on Jan. 16, 2008 and was appaulded about it.
We have infringed upon. We should have the right to know what we are consuming. Like some of the meds. I took premarin for 10 years only to find out that it was horse urine. I did not know! I immediately stopped taking it. I know that there are others who are on it but do not have any idea that this is what it is. I suffer with my stomach now and wander if it is related to the nausea that I have. I found out watching a report on television about it.
So far, scientists say that there are no detectable differences between the meat of regular animals and cloned animals. So, yes, cloned meat has all the nutritional value that regular food has.
Is it safe? Well, the FDA says yes. Obviously, there are a lot of other people on this forum who think otherwise. And there are always fears--legitimate or not--about new technologies, especially when they involve food. Look at the controversy surrounding genetically modified organisms (GMOs), for example...
Clonned animals age prematurely and are subject to more health problems earlier than non-clonned animals.
Eating clonned animals is not a good idea. Not revealling that you are selling clonned animals is morally reprehensible as the public should be informed on the packaging label so that they can make intelligent decisions.
how could they have approvedin 2007? it's still 2006! december30 to be exact
Yep, it was 2006. Sorry, I made typo and have fixed it now.
it would just be so gross to eat meat from a cloned animal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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no that would be great
No way!
i don't know it depends on the animal???????
Why would you feel it gross to eat from a cloned animal?
i think that is discusting. in the old ways our lands were once filled with enough meat but if white settlers would of learned not to be so sellfish idiots wouldnt have to clone to make prefab meat.
Yes - in a moment. The meat is genetically identical to the other and as such, it wouldn't bother me.
NO!! that is kinda gross and very un natural!
if I am starving, then yes
yah i totally agree with this thing cuz its soo not fair when people hve to starve themslef
i would
God made animals with the ability to reproduce themselves. Why does man think he needs to interfere?
No it might have dieses or like mad cow diese and other stuff
i think that though it sounds very very very very disgusting, i think there wouldn't be any difference. if the label on the meat products didn't mention that it was cloned meat, you would think it was normal meat.
Because he wants a little more control over something new each and everyday.
it's really just a mathematical truth; the natural reproduction of animals is just not sufficient to support the growth of the human race in the manner it is accustomed (burgers, lamb, fish, etc.) man interferes" in natural world all of the time, in thousands of ways; it may also be God's will. Judge not, lest ye be judged
I would rather eat a cloned animal than die...
It doesn't sound any worse than the stuff they already put in our food.
The issue here seems to be not whether cloned meat is edible, but the cloning itself. A clone of, for instance, a cow, would be genetically identical to the original animal, so the meat would be no different. The moral issues are whether reproductive cloning of any organism is ethical, and would cloning animals to eat them be an insult to nature? After all, such a practice could set a precedent for more radical techniques, such as genetic manipulation, which could have unforseen side effects, as it already does in crops, and if just one person dies of an allergic reaction to a genetically modified protein, that's one person too many.
But what if these modification allow for more hungry people around the world to be fed with less environmental damage. I'm not saying this is a certainty but I don't object to "weird/unnatural" food if it help hungry people.
Although, if you are interested in this you might check out Margaret Atwood's recent book, Oryx and Crake. It is a pretty cool dystopian near future look at Frankenfood taken to the extreme.
Cloned food will feed the hungry? Please, I nearly fell off my chair! Franken-scientists have been telling us for years that one of the benefits of GMO's was their ability to supply the starving with sustenance. Well, I guess you were duped on that one too because they certainly haven't shown any benefit as millions world-wide continue to die in ever increasing numbers. The only consequence of the proliferation of genetically-tampered food has been a greater incidence of negative impact to consumer's health. (i.e. allergic reactions to soy and a general increase in disease manifestation)
Cloning has nothing to do with a benevolent group of individuals with an idealistic quest. These are scientific madmen whose only purpose in life is to gain power and wealth, at the EXPENSE of public and animal health and safety.
I urge everyone who is appalled by this shameful practice by industry and the total disregard demonstrated for the health and welfare of the public by government, to contact the FDA and your elected representative and tell them so. Submission to the FDA can be done from the following website which includes a handy form.
www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/oca/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY 6433
I chose to respond with my own comments printed below, which can be copied in full or in part by those who wish.
Food and Drug Administration
To Whom It May Concern:
I have modified the standard message on the form being forwarded from the Organics Consumers Association website as I feel a stronger message needs to be sent to those in authority at the FDA.
Unlike the OCA, I do not hold the belief that further testing or experimentation of the flawed science of cloning should continue. I also think it’s unconscionable that an organization mandated to protect the public would allow products from a "counterfeited" animal into the human food supply, with or without labeling.
It is my fervent belief that cloning is and will forever be a failed science. It has been demonstrated time and time again that any animal which man attempts to replicate, sickens and dies within a short period of time. You don’t need a Harvard degree to realize something is inherently wrong with this bizarre practice.
The so-called "experts" will never comprehend that a clone has no conscience and no soul and is imperfect because it is devoid of the one gene that man can never duplicate - the one that originates from our Creator's imprint.
Likely, most scientists involved in cloning and related frauds would scoff at the idea that a higher power had anything to do with the creation of this wondrous world we live in, and there inlies the rub.
The fact that multi-billions have already been squandered on genetics and associated research, with absolutely nothing of benefit to show for the general public, is a damning indictment of this fallacious profession.
The "hard" science dictates that cloning, genetics and stem-cell research are nothing more than pseudo-sciences that only benefit those with a vested interest.
The important question is then; does the FDA protect the interests of consumers or those of corporate entities? Are they on the side of the light, or the dark?
Every employee of the Food and Drug Administration who holds responsibility for supporting and facilitating the marketing of this "franken-food" must be held accountable for any negative effect to the public from the consumption of these deleterious products. The implications of ingesting cloned food may be short-term, long-term, or both, but undoubtedly there will be serious implications.
The FDA is opening up a Pandora's Box that needs to be shut, now and forever, or dire consequences will certainly result. It behooves the FDA to make the moral and ethical decision on such a monumental issue.
The alternative is to face the conviction that the organization and its affiliates are guilty, beyond a shadow of a doubt, of gross neglect for the safety and health and welfare of the public, and subject to any repercussions resulting from the same, legal or otherwise.
Is the cloning of animals practical? Can you really reconstruct the organic matter of a life-form? In 20 years marketers would be advertising their "real" non-cloned meat. Riots would form against the cloning of animals as it would be modifying the ecosystems which are so balenced in the world. If, say a million cloned chickens escaped, preditors would overeat, multiply, and eliminate the excess food scource. Most would die off. The chicken populations would again expand, thus sending ripples though numerous food chains.
i think that animals shouldn't be cloned in the first place. they know how to reproduce! for pete's sake! use sommmonn sense
I like meat. A lot. I don't care where it comes from. As long as my canines are ripping into fresh, bloody meat; it's all good to me!
recreating animals. uh I think that we would rather have cloned animals than nothing buttttt obviously we are not at a shortage of animals right now.No i think the animals stay pretty busy out there. You know how many animals I almost break my spleen tripping over them. PlENTY. Lets use SOMMMMON sense about this
IF YOU HAVE CLONED ANIMALS AND CAN NOT TAKE CARE OF THEM - WHY HAVE THEM OR ANY OTHER
CATTLE........LOOK AT THE GREG WILES SITUATION
DUh Let god rain all fires from heavin on you all for even thinking of cloning animals
There are a lot of cloned animals already walking around on this earth. Didn't god give us the know how of how to clone animals?
CLonned meat might be bad for you. I dont really care for the flavor and texture of it
I think I need more evidence that it is safe to eat. If you clone a cow with mad cow diease it could cause death and pain to many and it could take many years to figure it out.
Well, what you say is true.
However, there's no reason to think that cloned cows would be more likely to carry BSE ("mad cow disease"), and many reasons to think they might be less so.
I agree: I would like to see more discussion of the possible safety issues. On the other hand, we currently eat meat with artificial hormones and antibiotics, and we KNOW the health issues that may be associated with those.
I know that I wouldn't seek out cloned meat, but I don't think I'd pay extra to avoid it, either.
And right now, I'm much more worried about whether or not my produce isn't contaminated with E. coli or other pathogens than I am about the safety of cloned meat!
Yes, I would. I think cloned meat would taste no different than regular meat, so why not?
I don't think it is right to clone animals let alone eat them. I is digusting to think about eating any animal because they are innocent.
I don't think it is right to clone animals.
I believe that animals should not be cloned because it is just sick how you can do thtat to an animal.
We should not be afraid of science, we need to approach it from an intelligent perspective. Gain knowledge not fear.
I think eating cloned animals sounds gross. But it might taste the same and the nutrition hopefully is similar. But, Ithink we shouldn't abuse our power of cloning or else something disaterious might happen.
meat is murder
wow... Can you believe this? Come on people.. Wake up! Why clone when we have enought animals to feed ourself. I think If we cloned animils then we are playing god. So science is a game of playing god? To me NOOOOOO..
Meat is good
no way. meh. eat the real stuff
i guess to a certain piont it sounds like a interesting idea but kind of weird. because if you raised a really healthy animal and cloned it for better meat that would be reallly cool, but we don't know if the technology is reliable enough to fulfill that.
I would but it would have to have been tested a lot first.
Pigs, eg, have been bred tobe so similar in size, shape etc. that they might as well be cloned. Object is to get consistant maturity for butchering (10 months) and shape to allow robots to do the cutting etc.
that's what we are eating now! Baby-backed ribs anyone? D.O.
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Yes. It would just be like eating twinned meat.
I have never tried a cloned animal so I wouldn't know.
i dont think that i would eat any because its kinda nasty if you thinnk about it.
I personally would not eat it just because of the fact that it is cloned. I like to eat meat, but if it is cloned, odds are it is missing nutrients and such things, so no I wouldn't. Then again, I am starting to become a vegitterean, so why should my opinion maatter?
Sincerely, Anonomys Writer
Cloned animals are genetic "twins" of the animals they're cloned from. There's no reason to believe that they'd be deficient in any nutrients.
There is no scientifically proven difference between the meat of a cloned animal and that of the animal which was cloned. This is not a religious issue or a moral one and I fail to understand why people feel the need to make it one. Eventually, we will need to clone many things in order to survive and sustain human life on this planet. So, yes, I would definitely eat meat from a cloned animal.
If you clone a cow for instance, you will get double the meat. HOORAY!
Who really cares if the meat is cloned or not? It's meat, people!! It doesn't make a difference. So, what does it really matter? You probably already eat cloned veggies. Would cloned meat be any different than regular meat? NO!!!!!!!!!!! It could probably make the meat cleaner, and that comment about mad cow disease, sorry,(you can't clone the disease, only the genes!!) If you take a perfectly good cow, and clone it, it would probably be another perfect cow. I vote with cloning all the way!! And, if u r a veggie eater, u have no say in this whatsoever!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11 year old girl
I wouldn't eat cloned meat because I believe the onset of disease and aging would come on quicker in the animal. I understand that the meat that would be cloned would come from an animal who would seem to be healthy, but what if when they age they have health issues. Wouldn't these same health issues come on faster in a cloned animal? And what if we have meat that come from all the same genes and a new disease wipes out these animals because they all have the same genes. Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival.
'Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival."
Very good point!
And if there was an allergy derived from a cloned animal, due to the fact that there is as of now no requirements for labeling, there would be no way to track down the particular cow.
Have you read the case about a Maryland dairy farmer named Greg Wiles?
"The FDA action follows the recent news that the agency has refused to investigate health problems in animal clones on a U.S. dairy farm. Greg Wiles, whose Williamsport Maryland "Futuraland 2020"dairy was the first farm in the nation to have cloned cows, told FDA that one of his two cow clones was suffering from unexplained health problems. Wiles told Food Chemical News that the clone "just stopped growing...she just looks terrible," but says that when he reported the problems to FDA and other federal officials, he was "paddled around like a tennis ball from agency to agency."CFS has asked the Agriculture Department to intervene in the case to stop any sale and prohibit the slaughter of clones and their progeny for food." http://www.progress.org/2006/gene114.htm
"Mr. Wiles was the first to have a commercial clone on his dairy farm in Maryland. To date, he has been abiding by the FDA’s requested voluntary moratorium on placing milk and meat from cloned animals and their progeny into the food supply. As a result of a court case, a judge in Maryland District Court for Washington County may soon order that Mr. Wiles’ animals – including clones and their progeny – be sold to satisfy a judgment. A force sale of the animals would likely result in their slaughter for use in meat. Mr. Wiles is concerned about this possibility on at least two fronts. First, he believes that the forced sale of the cloned animals would result in placing milk and meat from cloned animals into the food supply before any government agency has fully evaluated its safety. Second, Mr. Wiles, who has experienced a number of health problems with his cloned animals, believes that the animals should not be put into the food supply and instead be evaluated as part of the risk assessment process use to determine whether or not milk and meat from cloned animals is safe. Over the last several years, Mr. Wiles has brought this matter to the attention of the government – meeting with FDA and USDA officials – but has been rebuffed in his attempts to have his cloned animals fully evaluated and used in research.
Upon hearing of the Wiles situation, today Center for Food Safety and Food and Water Watch sent the attached letter to the USDA FSIS asking the agency to prohibit any slaughter of clones and their progeny and intervene in the Wiles case to the extent necessary to prevent the sale of the cloned animals." http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/food/foodsafety/cloning/news-pending-cloned-animal-slaughter
Informative websites about this matter:
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/nation/12/21/21clonedcows.html
http://pewagbiotech.org/newsroom/summaries/display.php3?NewsID=1036
http://www.progress.org/2006/gene114.htm
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/CloneRiskAssessment.htm
http://www.satansrapture.com/biomeat.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/1/europe_meat_ban.htm
http://www.label-cloned-meat.information-place.net/index.php
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/316737199?ltl=1168813024
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/326647632
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=95&pst=831801&archival=
http://www.yelp.com/topic/yAPDCRQTZD4MKg90ozb-kg
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01541.html
http://www.myspace.com/label_cloned_meat
http://www.mercola.com/2002/apr/24/cloning.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/10/cloning.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2007/jan/9/can-you-avoid-cloned-meats.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/27/pope_cloning.htm
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/about/press/releases/approval-of-cloned-food-leaves-consumers-unprotected
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2521734,00.html
WHERE IS MR GREG WILES AT NOW - THE RUMOR IS HE IS BARELY ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE CATTLE HE HAS. THERE ARE NO MORE CLONES - THERE ARE CALVES OF THE CLONES, BUT THEY THEMSELVES ARE NOT CLONES.
HE IS IN THE HOLE ------ AND NO ONE IS OFFERING TO GET HIM OUT .........
Lisa
Thank you so much for your information on cloning! I am doing an essay on this topic and you have been so helpful.
meat is meat
cloning animals means that you could clone the animals that go the best with my secret barbeque sauce!!!YUM SANDWICH!!!!
Cloning in general is just wrong.
Why not eat it? If the animals are truly similar (def. of clone) their meat would be exatly the same, we wouldnt be able to tell a difference.
I do not have enough information yet. When you look at hunger in the world, this perhaps could be a resource if it is proven to be safe and nutritious.
Hmmmm...
I don't think that the FDA is talking about "artificial meat"--where proteins are grown in a lab. (Here's a Buzz story on the technique.) Artificial meat certainly could someday be a resource to combat hunger, and it could help the environment, too. (Read the story to find out why.) But it sure doesn't sound tasty, does it?
Instead, I think they're saying that IF an animal is cloned for some other purpose--say it's been bred for some optimum trait, and now they want to preserve that trait--it can enter the foodstream once its "useful life" is over.
Yes, the decision also means that people could clone animals for food, but cloning is SO expensive that it doesn't make sense right now to clone animals only for food.
it depends what animal it is
I might... I would need to know if everything, would be the same as normal products? I think it is a good idea overall though. I just hate how they clone.
The FDA made a preliminary statement on Dec. 28, 2006 about approving cloned meat and milk into the food supply without labeling. The FDA plans to make a final decision after accepting comments from the public. The FDA has a petition/docket on their website that is accepting comments from the general public until 4/10/07, so act fast people! Below is the docket and website address where it can be found:
Docket Number & Title: 2006P-0415 - Petition Seeking Regulation of Cloned Animals
Comment Period End Date: 04/10/07
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/oc/dockets/comments/getDocketInfo.cfm?EC_DOCUMENT_ID=1269&SORT=STARTD&MAXROWS=15&START=31&CID=&AGENCY=FDA
I think that it should be labeled so the consumer can choose, as someone else said. However, I don't see cloned food ever hitting the shelves, as it is way more expensive to clone animals than to breed them.
I disagree with the comment that we need cloned animals to be able to feed the hungry in the world. We already produce world wide the food we would need to feed all people on the earth world wide but we lack the ability to be able to divided our combined resources and food staples to be able to stop the famines and starvation we see in the world. If all governments on earth shared what they had there would be no one starving anymore but we don't. So cloning animals still won't help starving people because the governments cloning the animals still wont share the extra to help with worldwide starvation and we lack the resources to get the food there also. So cloning is mostly for scienctist to be the first ones to do it and not a cure all for global hunger.
I agree. Cloning will not help feed the hungry. (See post above about artificial meat, though...)
Cloning animals is FAR more expensive than breeding them, so I think it will be a long time before we find cloned animals in the foodstream in any significant numbers.
I would eat cloned meat if i had to and that was the last thing there was to eat
why would it matter if it was cloned or not? it still tastes the same! get over yourself!
get over yourselves! wats wrong with u people! Id rather eat cloned meat than die!
it depends on the situation if u were starving, than yes, if not, than ABSOULUTLLY NOT!!!!!!!!!!SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i wouldntbuyit or eat it because itjust not the same
I think that cloned animals can really help impovershed nations around the world who are starving and whatnot. However, it will also have an economic effect on Ranchers and Farmers... And most of the time, when Americans have more things, it doesn't really affect other countries. We could introduce it to the poorer nations, but that would require an increase of education and highly-trained cloning-technicians.
So I suppose I'm a little confused.
i agree with the other guy. it's okay.
no
i really dont know...part of me believes there is life beyond earth but part of is saying well if there was we probably would have seen something by now!!
A consumer group, the Center for Food Safety, alleged today that the FDA's approval process for cloned meat and milk was done too quickly, didn't involve enough stakeholders, and is scientifically flawed.
According to the Reuter's article:
Yes
Cloned meat... it wouldnt hurt the original animal would it? And i guess all the meat would be perfect, it would all look, taste and feel the same. But that dosent mean there would be more meat. You have to put the cloned foetus inside the animal so it grows etc. So basically, you would get perfect meat, but it would be more expensive, take just as long, and the process would be so difficult that there would be less of it out there. And i think most people would prefer to eat real meat than cloned.
i do not eat meat cuz i am an animal lover and i love all sorts and every kinds ugly or cute i love them no matter what
It depends, maybe after a profound scientific study that would certified eating Cloned Meat ( Animal) is safe.
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I recently had the chance to see the movie I am Legend. Anyone who thinks humans can improve on what God has created (or nature if you do not believe in God) needs to see the movie and then ask yourself if it is still a good idea to try to improve on what already is.
very well put!!!!! i like what you said!!!!!
depends what it's original.........ummmmm never mind. of course not!!!!!!!!!!!
I probably wouldn't eat cloned meat. i mean, isn't the point of cloning to bring back endangered animals? If it is, what's the point of cloning them if you are just going to kill them!
If they are not labeling this meat. Are they even going to tell us when it is on the market? I mean come on people stick up for your rights this is America. People should have a choice about what they eat. I would not put that garbage in my body. The government says alot of things keep in mind they are all human to, and humans make mistakes.
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